My approach to showing that is as large as predicted by the BSD conjecture is suggested by Mazur's notion of the visible subgroup of . Consider an abelian variety A that sits naturally in the Jacobian J0(N) of the modular curve X0(N). The visible subgroup of consists of those elements that go to 0 under the natural map to . Cremona and Mazur observed that if an element of order p in is visible, then it is explained by a jump in the rank of Mordell-Weil, in the sense that there is another abelian subvariety such that and B has many rational points. I am trying to find the precise degree to which this observation can be turned around: if there is another abelian variety B with many rational points and , then under what hypotheses is there an element of of order p?