Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1999 10:47:07 -0800 From: Shuzo Takahashi To: "Kenneth A. Ribet" Cc: was@math.berkeley.edu Subject: Mestre-Oesterl\'e's theorem Dear Ken, I am still on the Berkeley NTS mailing list (which I like) and I saw that you talked or are going to talk about Mestre-Oesterl\'e's theorem on the surjectivity of the map on the groups of connected components. I was wondering whether you might know if the statement below (a slight generalization of their theorem) is true. Let J be J_0(pq) (p and q are different primes). Consider an optimal quotient J --> E and the map Phi(J,p) --> Phi(E,p) on the groups of connected components induced from J --> E by the mod p reduction. Statement: For any p, Phi(J,p) --> Phi(E,p) is surjective if q = 2, 3, 5, 7, or 13. Mestre-Oesterl\'e's theorem can be considered as the case q = 1. The statement is numerically true for p < 40 (thanks to data provided by David Kohel) and if E is unique in its Q-isogeny class up to isomorphism, this is obviously true because in this case c_p = #Phi(E,p) = 1 by your level-lowering theorem. Also, for example, if q = 11, the statement is generally false, but for some p's, it is still true. I am interested in this because for q = 2, 3, 5, 7, or 13 this statement is equivalent to the statement c_p c_q = c'_p c'_q where c'_p and c'_q are the orders of the groups of connected components of the elliptic curve (isogenous to E) which is an optimal quotient of Shimura curve associated with the maximal order in the indefinite quaternion algebra of discriminant pq. Best Regards, Shuzo